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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.killeryellow.com/blog/2009/12/13/photo-books-periodicals-and-boxes/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on the future of photo books from Senior Product Manager at online publisher lulu.com Tim Wright:  http://bit.ly/87FuEK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the future of photo books from Senior Product Manager at online publisher lulu.com Tim Wright:  <a href="http://bit.ly/87FuEK" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/87FuEK</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jin</title>
		<link>http://www.killeryellow.com/blog/2009/12/13/photo-books-periodicals-and-boxes/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Jin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s where the subscriptions could combine with social networking in a cool way. If there was a centralized site for managing subscriptions, you could also friend other members and recommend publications or see your friends&#039; recommendations, which would effectively be the same thing as following an editor.

In some way, this is already what&#039;s happening on Twitter and Facebook, but to establish a network of people whose tastes you like takes a while right now, whereas with a subscription site you could jump in fairly quickly and not have to wait for reciprocating friending or wade through non-publication related posts. Maybe all we need is some sort of Twitter or Facebook app adapted for our needs!

The problem for me, as I&#039;ve said in the other comment, is really the time and effort needed to keep up with publications right now. Of course I could already subscribe to Lay Flat and other indie mags, but in order to do that I need to keep up with the blogs and subscribe to 10+ feeds and use all sorts of different payment systems.

It also limits me pretty much to the high art community, unless I spend a comparable amount of searching out other random photographers. Something where anyone can sign up and you can either stay within your own community or search for a variety of other things would be really interesting, at least in my mind. Maybe it does nothing to promote livelihoods for working artists, but I would like the ability to buy random singles from random photographers, whether they want a serious career in art or no. Perhaps this is problematic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s where the subscriptions could combine with social networking in a cool way. If there was a centralized site for managing subscriptions, you could also friend other members and recommend publications or see your friends&#8217; recommendations, which would effectively be the same thing as following an editor.</p>
<p>In some way, this is already what&#8217;s happening on Twitter and Facebook, but to establish a network of people whose tastes you like takes a while right now, whereas with a subscription site you could jump in fairly quickly and not have to wait for reciprocating friending or wade through non-publication related posts. Maybe all we need is some sort of Twitter or Facebook app adapted for our needs!</p>
<p>The problem for me, as I&#8217;ve said in the other comment, is really the time and effort needed to keep up with publications right now. Of course I could already subscribe to Lay Flat and other indie mags, but in order to do that I need to keep up with the blogs and subscribe to 10+ feeds and use all sorts of different payment systems.</p>
<p>It also limits me pretty much to the high art community, unless I spend a comparable amount of searching out other random photographers. Something where anyone can sign up and you can either stay within your own community or search for a variety of other things would be really interesting, at least in my mind. Maybe it does nothing to promote livelihoods for working artists, but I would like the ability to buy random singles from random photographers, whether they want a serious career in art or no. Perhaps this is problematic!</p>
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		<title>By: mattymatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattymatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all the ideas I&#039;m reading, I like your idea about subscribing to photographers the best. It would be great if I could say, &quot;oh, I like this guy&#039;s work; when he has 30 new prints to publish, go ahead and put them in a book and mail it to me and charge me for it.&quot; 

Actually, there&#039;s nothing stopping photographers from doing that right now, is there? I mean I could easily just stuff a bunch of images into iPhoto and spit out a bunch of books and send them off to whoever had paid for a subscription.

What would make this even better is if I could subscribe to certain editors: &quot;oh, this guy always picks out the best work from emerging artists; when he has 30 prints that he thinks everyone should see, go ahead and print them up and send me a book of them. OKTHXBAI.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the ideas I&#8217;m reading, I like your idea about subscribing to photographers the best. It would be great if I could say, &#8220;oh, I like this guy&#8217;s work; when he has 30 new prints to publish, go ahead and put them in a book and mail it to me and charge me for it.&#8221; </p>
<p>Actually, there&#8217;s nothing stopping photographers from doing that right now, is there? I mean I could easily just stuff a bunch of images into iPhoto and spit out a bunch of books and send them off to whoever had paid for a subscription.</p>
<p>What would make this even better is if I could subscribe to certain editors: &#8220;oh, this guy always picks out the best work from emerging artists; when he has 30 prints that he thinks everyone should see, go ahead and print them up and send me a book of them. OKTHXBAI.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jin</title>
		<link>http://www.killeryellow.com/blog/2009/12/13/photo-books-periodicals-and-boxes/comment-page-1/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Jin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why thank you! Glad I was able to contribute to the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why thank you! Glad I was able to contribute to the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Miki Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.killeryellow.com/blog/2009/12/13/photo-books-periodicals-and-boxes/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Miki Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT ideas here. I think you win the award so far for the most good, &quot;what if we tried this&quot; ideas :) (Love Bryan&#039;s Netflix for Books too)

Just wanted to say that I&#039;ve been pulling a lot of links out of the collaborating blogs and plan on publishing them as related posts in the coming day. Those include: online publications, physical publication, publishers, printers, and JUST PLAIN COOL THINGS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT ideas here. I think you win the award so far for the most good, &#8220;what if we tried this&#8221; ideas :) (Love Bryan&#8217;s Netflix for Books too)</p>
<p>Just wanted to say that I&#8217;ve been pulling a lot of links out of the collaborating blogs and plan on publishing them as related posts in the coming day. Those include: online publications, physical publication, publishers, printers, and JUST PLAIN COOL THINGS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The periodical could really combine with your whole Netflix Books idea in a cool way. I wouldn&#039;t know that I&#039;d do Netflix for hefty photobooks, but for smaller scope periodicals or even single prints, that might be really great. The problem is really  when will the self publishing industry reach a critical mass so that someone is willing to invest the tech resources to make it possible?

I don&#039;t know if it&#039;d get too Amazon monolith-like, but it&#039;d be nice to have a centralized net destination, as you call it, for fine art / documentary photo products. Right now you have to keep up with dozens of blogs to figure out what publishers are offering what and which photographers are having print sales. I think it&#039;d benefit everyone to have a place where you&#039;re reminded that someone whose work you like has released something new or made a print available.

You know, someone should really compile a list of all the indie periodicals like Lay Flat, Publication, etc. Maybe I&#039;ll start adding to the sidebar... I&#039;m confused about the Kalina mag though - all that&#039;s on his site seems to be images of the covers. Maybe there&#039;s not enough to warrant a list now? Or maybe I just don&#039;t know... that&#039;s the problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The periodical could really combine with your whole Netflix Books idea in a cool way. I wouldn&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d do Netflix for hefty photobooks, but for smaller scope periodicals or even single prints, that might be really great. The problem is really  when will the self publishing industry reach a critical mass so that someone is willing to invest the tech resources to make it possible?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;d get too Amazon monolith-like, but it&#8217;d be nice to have a centralized net destination, as you call it, for fine art / documentary photo products. Right now you have to keep up with dozens of blogs to figure out what publishers are offering what and which photographers are having print sales. I think it&#8217;d benefit everyone to have a place where you&#8217;re reminded that someone whose work you like has released something new or made a print available.</p>
<p>You know, someone should really compile a list of all the indie periodicals like Lay Flat, Publication, etc. Maybe I&#8217;ll start adding to the sidebar&#8230; I&#8217;m confused about the Kalina mag though &#8211; all that&#8217;s on his site seems to be images of the covers. Maybe there&#8217;s not enough to warrant a list now? Or maybe I just don&#8217;t know&#8230; that&#8217;s the problem!</p>
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		<title>By: BryanF.</title>
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		<dc:creator>BryanF.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great ideas.  Really think you&#039;re onto something with the serial magazine. I know Noah Kalina publishes his own mag with different themes and designers for each issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great ideas.  Really think you&#8217;re onto something with the serial magazine. I know Noah Kalina publishes his own mag with different themes and designers for each issue.</p>
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		<title>By: The Photobook Circa 2019 &#124; Ocular Octopus</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Photobook Circa 2019 &#124; Ocular Octopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chat About &#8220;Future of the Photobook&#8221; Tomorrow on Twitter &#124; Ocular Octopus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chat About &#8220;Future of the Photobook&#8221; Tomorrow on Twitter &#124; Ocular Octopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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